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Game – Back to the Basics

We haven’t done a major post on the game in quite some time but a lot of questions have come in that seem to repeat: 1) How do I open a girl, 2) what do I do if a girl I am with gets hit on, 3) Indirect versus Direct, and a few others. This is an open ended post so lets just jump in.

1) How Do I Open a Girl? If you are looking for specific lines to use or specific lines to text to a woman, forget about it and report back to the beginning stages of the game. Anyone who has been around for more than a few years in the game knows the truth:

“It is not about what you say but how you say it and who says it“

Lets draw a picture here.

Guy 1: Baggy jeans. FUBU sweater on. Air Jordans that do not fit. Chain hanging from his back pocket. Backward hat on.

Guy 2: Suit, tie with a tie bar, brown brouges shoes that match his belt, flattering colors, shaved, well groomed.

Both men approach the same woman during the day in public with the following line:

“That is a pretty cute purse where did you get it?”

Girl response to guy 1? She runs. She literally runs. Why? She thought she was going to be straight up robbed.

Girl response to guy 2? She smiles. Oh, umm (stutter) I don’t know i think XXX but my sister got it for me last week for XXX.

Well this is quite obvious for anyone who has been around awhile. People will make snap judgements about your value upon hello. Guy 2 will have significantly more success than Guy 1. That makes sense but what if they looked exactly the same?

Guy 1 – Stutters and fumbles like a young nervous boy

Guy 2 – Strong masculine voice. Direct.

Who is going to command more positive reads from women? You already know, guy number 2.

Moral of the Story? The point is clear. If you are looking for a specific line, you can simply stop and just use an assumption opener. That is all you need. Every good “opener” is an assumption about someone you just met that is 1) not insulting, 2) not sexual and 3) not degrading. That’s it. You can use the assumption opener in a night club, during the day at the gym, at the park, or even at the grocery store. Simply make an assumption. Want to know some lines that have worked that have actually lead to lays? Sure.

“Hey are you a tourist from XXX?” (walking down the street)

“Are you from XX city I saw that watch at XX store?” (grocery store)

“You must love smartphones because that’s the new iPhone 5s isn’t it?” (on the subway)

“You must be training for the high jump” (at the gym)

As soon as you make an assumption that is not insulting, it can even be somewhat flattering if you assume she is wearing a gucci purse for example, but at the end she will immediately wonder “why is he asking me this”. This is the best way to immediately spark a conversation for a beginner.

2) What Do I Do About Jealousy: In a phrase… Jealousy is a female trait. Women try to create drama/emotional roller coasters and it is your job to remain emotionally stable. Think about it like this. If you were a billionaire famous movie star and a man attempts to hit on your girlfriend are you worried? No.

In fact you should have the reverse reaction of average men. Average men fail at everything so lets do the opposite. Average man will get upset and “get up in your grill” asking why you’re hitting on “his girl”.

Stop.

Do the reverse. If a handsome well dressed man attempts to hit on your girl, simply sit back smile and drink your dry martini as he attempts to swoop in. Once he gives it a go, simply take your girl and move on. That simple. The only time you need to worry is when she flirts back. If she flirts with him, well you need to go ahead and end the interaction.

“Here you go babe (hand her over to him). She likes her hair pulled hard and don’t forget to bite her neck hard”

Walk away and she’ll immediately go back to you. If she doesn’t? Her loss anyway.

3) Indirect vs. Direct Game: Pretty simple here guys. This is going to make a few people upset but here is the truth. Indirect game is for people with average value as men and direct game is for men with high value.

Before people chime in and get upset by this, again run the same scenarios listed in part one. “It is not what you say but who says it and how he says it.

Picture this. Brad Pitt walks into a grocery store for one reason or another. People already notice. He walks up to an attractive woman and says…. “Excuse me do you know what time this place closes?”

Okay stop laughing. Why is this hilarious? It is hilarious because it does not make sense and is not congruent at all. Replace this with “You look nice today, where did you get your outfit from”

Now it makes sense.

If you want to try this theory out in practice you can feel free to do so. Start first by having two outfits, one being your all out attire. Perfectly fitting suit, perfect shirt, nice watch, shoes etc. Try to go direct and then try to go indirect. Report back and your numbers by going direct will be higher.

Now reverse the game. Wear relatively nice clothes. Crisp jeans, a decent blazer and a v-neck. Try to go direct and then try to go indirect. Report back and your numbers by going indirect will be higher.

This makes a lot of sense doesn’t it? This is also why indirect is going to work for people in the 20-29 years old age range while dressing to perfection and going direct will work better for people in the 30+ age range. Most men in their 20s simply don’t have the resources/value to go direct yet. So, for the vast majority of our readers, go ahead and use indirect and use a simple assumption opener.

4) Concluding Comments: This was a quick high level post and we suggest everyone focuses in on evolving their game. The best way to continue down the correct path is to increase your value as a man.You will have less worries with regards to “text game”, “being cock blocked by an app” and other such nonsense. If push comes to shove ask yourself, would Muhammad Ali do this? If not, you probably shouldn’t either.

28 COMMENTS

    1. Hopefully this was a joke, please re-read the post. There is no such thing.

      The game is always the same, ask yourself “What is the underlying message I am trying to convey”

      Examples:
      1) You walk in and are a popular guy and everyone wants to talk to you. (underlying message is you are fun and someone she should know… a positive)
      2) You tell her I make $X per year, a high number (underlying message is you are insecure and are trying to buy her affection)
      3) this one might seem rude, but “What are some lines I should use on women” (think about it, the underlying message is you are not willing to work on some ideas yourself and want to “trick” women into liking you)
      4) You wear nice clothes and tell her a medicore story about international travel (this will likely work because it implies 1) you are well off, 2) you live an interesting life)

      Before you say or do anything, simply ask “what is the underlying meaning?”

      Finally, notice the question you asked fails the “Muhammad Ali” test. IE: there is no way a confident man would ask this, correct? So remember, never ask this to a woman as well.

      1. This is pretty much all of it.

        Once you realize the entire interaction is the implied message, you stop worrying about lines and gimmicks.

  1. How do you guys bring this one: “Here you go babe (hand her over to him). She likes her hair pulled hard and don’t forget to bite her neck hard” In a serious or playful tone?
    I think most women flirt a little bit with everyone to make you jealous – wouldn’t it be kind of overblown to use this one? Of course I mean flirting in an innocent sense not full-on sexual innuendo and touching etc.

    1. Yes use judgement here. There is a difference between being polite to someone and blatantly flirting in front of you trying to get in his pants.

      If she is being polite, simply do nothing. If she is flirting you simply drop this line and actually leave. Any girl who would try to get with someone else in front of your face is going to cheat on you anyway.

    1. Yep that is the point, hence the title.

      We got a lot of emails for one reason or another on “direct vs indirect” and how to manage jealousy etc. Needed to be addressed in a quick post

  2. Great article but Muhammad Ali is a draft dodger and a terrible representation of the man you help build here at WSP.

    1. Ha feel free to replace him with any confident person you look up to.

      Would a man like xxx do this, ask this or react like this? If not, don’t do it.

  3. how do you increase your value as a man? Better fitness and wardrobe? Any other suggestions would be appreciated! great post btw fellas.

    1. This one is easy.

      Anything that increases your 1) power or 2) status.

      Running around during your free time getting piss drunk or taking fake subway routes to ask girls if they are from the area… does not count as one or two.

      1. Can you go more into what you mean by power and status?

        Status I think is pretty clear and it gets talked about a lot. Status displayed in terms of wealth, health, dress, abilities, hobbies, pre-selection, etc.

        What would be the signs of Power?

      2. It is all related, ie: who is top tier in the room. Or who is in control?

        That is all it is.

        In a gym the guy in power is the biggest dude and most fit. Above him is the gym owner if he is fit and well off. Above him is the guy who is fit and wealthy and owns several gyms.

        Power = who is the best in the room
        Status = who is well liked

        If you have both you win.

        This is why some rich guys can struggle with women, they have horrible people skills and are not well liked.

      3. 1. Ask what you are good at
        2. Ask how you can improve at it
        3. Find a group of people to compete/grow with and wait until you are in the top 5%
        4. Continue finding a new group of people to compete/grow with
        5. When you’re in the top 5-10% on a national basis you’re now high status
        6. When you can teach people how to get into the top 10%+ you have power

        Simple as that.

        Finally, we get this question too many times, or something similar.

        FFS stop looking for line for line rhyme for rhyme things to say to a girl to “open” and “close” make mistakes yourself and develop your own game. Anyone selling line for line information is wasting your time.

  4. Great post on philosophy of life.

    1 tip I do in a night-club is to play around w/the girls when dudes hit on her

    I’ll pull her hair or grab her ass and then wink at the dude. Its hysterical seeing dudes lose focus and deflate like a popped balloon.

    Moral of the story is just like WSP said there is no strict rule, just mindest on life. Push your boundaries as much as you can and don’t forget to enjoy the process. Savor the little moments…ala pranking other dudes.

  5. Playboys,

    Awesome fucking post.

    How would you approach closing business deals?
    -how to connect with the buyer
    -presenting and getting the sale (do details matter?)

    Thank you,

    Al

  6. I was told once “the best game is no game” (by a woman). The more you try to be something your not, or be something you think she’ll like, the worse off you are. Power and status are great, but hell, I’m guessing most of your readers are in the 20-35 bracket, power and status don’t come easy and you may not get these things till later in life. Confidence kills. I don’t make a lot of money (not yet) and as far as power goes, in a political/financial sense, I don’t have that (yet), but I have confidence in myself (the real root of power) and so I have never had trouble with women. Don’t waste time with pickup lines, get your shit strait, hit the gym, find something you are passionate about in life, and aim to be completely comfortable with yourself in all situations, then you will have game. Keep up the great blog, love reading new stuff!

  7. Great post.
    Is it possible to make a game plan post from a female perspective? I mean for girls working on the street…

    1. That post would take four seconds TBH

      1) Look as good as possible
      2) Be as feminine as possible
      3) Make eye contact

      Post complete.

  8. “She runs. She literally runs. Why? She thought she was going to be straight up robbed.”

    I could literally imagine you saying this and how we’d both be laughs for 5 minutes. We literally do whatever it takes to get laid.

  9. to wsp,

    what do rich successful guys wear as casual or lounge wear when they arent dressed super sharp in a suit ready to kill? or does it not even matter? thanks